tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932965894595294709.post4554744430904796623..comments2023-03-29T02:55:02.294-07:00Comments on Brinda@Benares: Ultimatums.......& Partys =^..^=Brindahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01722102008502506117noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932965894595294709.post-20420779991615944162010-10-08T13:25:14.803-07:002010-10-08T13:25:14.803-07:00I was pre-law in college. And what I know now is t...I was pre-law in college. And what I know now is that Law doesn't necessarily protect the people. Instead, it serves to protect businesses, the ones with "deep pockets"...the very wealthy ones. I never get a good feeling when Linden or any company makes changes to its policies. They only think about their bottom line, not the convenience of the public. Needless to say, I'm not pursuing a Law degree. There are many other reasons, but this is a big reason.Lenoirrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08387014493319851279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932965894595294709.post-91110709926369121482010-10-08T08:31:25.824-07:002010-10-08T08:31:25.824-07:00One of the nice things of this season, is the annu...One of the nice things of this season, is the annual policy and/or pricing-surprise the Lab bestows upon us. I still fondly remember the deep sense of brother- and sisterhood, when we all picketed the Linden Offices during the HOmestead Rebellion.<br /><br />Needless to say, we shouldn't worry about whether or not the Lab is about to pull the plug. All section 4.2 does, is inform us about the fact that they can, if ever they should feel so inclined. Which, of course, the Lab will never do since SL is doing better than ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932965894595294709.post-18617337378434198782010-10-07T13:03:51.804-07:002010-10-07T13:03:51.804-07:00What does worry me about litigation like that is s...What does worry me about litigation like that is something that happened in San Diego 20 odd years back. A meat packer that had been in business since the turn of the twentieth century was just constantly legally hasseled by city government for *perceived* code violations. One day he threw up his hands, deleted his business, layed off a lot of workers,got in his 50 foot twin Caterpillar diesel engine boat and went fishing saying that he just didn't need all that.<br />My guess is Phillip has recouped his original million by now...and when the BS just gets too much they will pull the plug. <br />I still have hope...but I'm not buying anymore land.Brindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01722102008502506117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932965894595294709.post-13653141794866767072010-10-07T11:47:09.603-07:002010-10-07T11:47:09.603-07:00Someone reminded me an example of this happened fa...Someone reminded me an example of this happened fairly recently.<br /><br />This summer LL decided to update the physics engine. Doing so broke some weapons in SecondLife, including the arrows used in Gor.<br /><br />The Gor guys protested at orientation island saying "we bought land and sold products based on the old physics engine, now you have to go back to it."<br /><br />This time, LL was able to adjust the new Havoc engine so that the Gorean arrows worked again, but without a clause like that, the Goreans might consider they had cause to sue LL to force them to roll back the physics changes or collect damages if they don't, and without a clause like that, they might even have won in court.Edgar Buttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04682884126254114076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932965894595294709.post-62998748890870625982010-10-07T10:53:00.429-07:002010-10-07T10:53:00.429-07:00My Grandfather was born in 1887, a first generatio...My Grandfather was born in 1887, a first generation Irishman whos own grandparents fled "The Famine". He was one of those that worked in coal mines where the company owned everything.<br />In some ways The Benevolent Monarchy has that same philosophy it seems....and while they have a 'captive market' *for now*...it won't always be that way.Brindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01722102008502506117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932965894595294709.post-56498707035328699312010-10-07T08:17:21.924-07:002010-10-07T08:17:21.924-07:00I think that 10.5 is also intended to provide back...I think that 10.5 is also intended to provide back-up for:<br /><br /><i>7.2 You grant certain Content licenses to Linden Lab by submitting your Content to the Service.<br /><br />You agree that by uploading, publishing, or submitting any Content to or through the Servers, Websites, or other areas of the Service, you hereby automatically grant Linden Lab a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, sublicenseable, and transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, and perform the Content solely for the purposes of providing and promoting the Service.</i><br /><br />I.e.; "You upload it, but we own it, and if we use it in any way, 10.5 says we don't have to pay you."Lalo Tellinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07711076861284942835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932965894595294709.post-20267671326035521152010-10-07T02:33:47.243-07:002010-10-07T02:33:47.243-07:00I don't know if that was in the TOS before, bu...I don't know if that was in the TOS before, but it's a fairly standard clause. Basically it means:<br /><br />"Even if you're making money from some feature of our software, we're not obligated to continue that feature and you aren't entitled to any damages should we change it."<br /><br />An example would be, suppose they made a change to LSL that made the scripts in somebody's popular SL product stop working. (That's probably already happened, but I can't think of an example) <br /><br />The person whose products no longer worked would not be entitled to any compensation from LL. They would have to update their scripts or quit selling the product.Edgar Buttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04682884126254114076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3932965894595294709.post-72472749675753000392010-10-07T01:17:42.487-07:002010-10-07T01:17:42.487-07:0010.5 for me was a jaw dropper..."You are not ...10.5 for me was a jaw dropper..."You are not our employee and you are not entitled to compensation."...a wiser head informed me that it was probably in relation to the viewer whose name we don't mention in public, but I can't help but wonder if they were thinking of educators and non profit groups as well.......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com